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Jyotish on the Internet: Silicon Snake Oil or the New Reality?

Jyotish on the Internet: Silicon Snake Oil or the New Reality?

by Rohiniranjan

October 29, 1969 was a fateful day! Around 10:30 PM a child was born in UCLA, Los Angeles. It was a feeble birth, suffering a few gasps and creating some anxious moments in its birthing team. A month later, definite growth was noticed. Over the next several years its potential was seen first by military, then university and by mid to late 90\'s it had conquered the world! The name of the child was ARPANET and when it came of age, it began to call itself INTERNET. It was to be known worldwide and loved by mankind to become a household name. “Now we know the rest of the story!”, as a popular radio serial from Chicago says!

Around the early 90\'s Internet began to influence astrologers and astrology. But that was not the first brush between the two giants that have changed many lives: Astrology and Internet! As early as mid-80s telecommunication had already been established as a harbinger of the ‘shape of things to come!’ Recently settled in North America and beginning to get comfortable with the computers of those days, Timex-Sinclair ZX-81 and then the more serious phenomenon named as Commodore-64, I was very interested in automating and aiding my long-term interest in Jyotish and was tinkering with programs and routines for calculating jyotish charts for personal interest and also for doing research with my collection of charts. At about that time, I discovered telecommunications. Very different from what we are currently used to, there were only Bulletin Board Systems (BBS) available. You dialed a phone number, the modem connected to a BBS where you could post messages (just like today’s jyotish lists and forums) and exchanged a rudimentary form of E-mail and had access to software utilities written by early IT-afficionados, back then called computer Geeks (still are!). The novelty of the possibilities was exciting but really basic compared to where we are at now.

There were a couple of BBS that catered to those interested in occult subjects and there were a couple with small areas devoted to astrology; understandably western astrology. My early attempts to break ice were well received. People were welcoming and I was somewhat of a curiosity to them (That Indian ‘Joyshi’ guy!). Beyond the first thrill of this new way of communicating, there was really not much that was interesting on BBSs. Then I heard about Compuserve Information Service, GEnie (General electrics’ network), Delphi and then came Qlink (which eventually reemerged as America OnLine or AOL). These were all very expensive to access from Canada because of the Datapac (packet switching networks) surcharge. It was still cheaper than calling these services by long-distance, which was the only other option. Please remember that back in 80s long distance charges were really significant and none of the cut-throat competition as we see today existed.

GEnie, Delphi and Q-Link had astrology forums and in contrast to BBSs, had more sophisticated message systems, email systems and the beginning of what we know as Chat areas. Thousands of members had realtime, simultaneous access (huge VAX mainframes were utilized) and the air was full of electricity. These were the forums where I really began to interact with serious astrologers and exchanged with them what I had learned pretty much by myself, and aided by Shri B.V. Raman’s books and The Astrology Magazine over the prior decade or two. I was pretty much the only serious jyotishi on some of those forums back then.

Though I was a member on Compuserve, I used it reluctantly (most expensive of these services). When I moved at the very beginning of the 90\'s to a city where there was a local node (no more DATAPAC!), the cost factor became a lot more manageable and I began to frequent Compuserve which had just opened a New Age Forum (spawned from the Religion Forum) by entrepreneur Neil Shapiro and Rilla Moulden. The forum soon got so large that it had to be divided into two forums (fora!).

On one of these was the Astrology Section. I became a fixture on that Section! There were a whole bunch of very friendly, very enthusiastic individuals who were very much into astrology (of all kinds). I uploaded my messages, readings, articles I wrote to the libraries, conducted conferences to teach and introduce jyotish for several years. The Compuserve New Age Forum is still there, accessible through internet but a ghost town compared to those days. It was essentially killed by internet! While on Compuserve, I served as the librarian and then as a co-leader for the Astrology Section and the Vedic Astrology Section that was formed next. The forum provided a venue for interactions, serious discussions and plethora of research material. Most people were extremely forthcoming about their lives and details and that I saw was the biggest advantage of the interactive forums. Most jyotishis, particularly the amateur jyotishis read a lot of books and articles but do not have the test bed to examine what they have read and learned.

Recently, good quality birth data by the thousands has become available on commercial databases which contain both celebrities and regular people. Databases such as Taegers, IDEA (Rodden’s database now sold as Astrodatabank, probably one of the best available) etc did not exist, and still remain very expensive for many. The collection of data, the opportunity to actually interact with the nativities, hold online readings in real time and to verify information was an incredible resource in my path as a jyotishi. For that I shall always remain grateful to Compuserve and then to Internet.

As Internet became firmly installed by mid nineties, and Jyotish found a home therein, in fact many homes (!), it was natural for people to move there. At first there were jyotish newsgroups which were the precursors for what we know now as Jyotish lists or jyotish webgroups. Message threads were delivered to your email and you responded to the group. It was not very sophisticated and did not really hold a flame to the much more sophisticated message thread system on services like Compuserve. As web-programming and the WWW (world wide web) itself developed with the addition of more graphic and capable webbrowsers (Mozilla and all the way to its son Netscape and Microsoft Internet Explorer) , the internet phenomenon went into hyperdrive! Webspaces sprang all over the domain, many of these were commercial sites primarily for advertisement, while a few like mine primarily for providing information. I eventually was invited to participate in a web-experiment named Astro- Expert.

This was an ambitious site with astrocalculators, articles, reading areas and technical areas for asking questions etc. I manned the ‘Please Explain’ area on it. It must have been very popular and I did put in a lot of time and energy into it. So much that people thought the Astro-Expert site was mine. That it was not. Due to a variety of reasons, the site-owner had to focus elsewhere and Astro- Expert ceased to exist. Before I forget, I must give my thanks to Sri Rajender Krishan of New York who had created a site devoted to writings by and for Indians. The site was www.boloji.com and it is still growing stronger and more popular. It is a very esthetically pleasing site. In the astro section I used to contribute my writings and he was the individual who introduced me to the owner of Astro-Expert.

There are several Jyotish lists that exist on the web now, more like hundreds! Most of these allow individuals to interact, to share the libraries and are a popular venue for seeking readings, generally free. There are professional astrologers on these and it is a good way for many of them to establish their credibility by showcasing their astrological prowess in public and then be approached by those interested for paid readings. These are also potentially effective venues for technical discussions and astrological quizzes etc. While many individuals keep to the norms of civilized interactions, once in a while, flame-wars as they are called flare up! Internet communication, unlike face to face communication suffers from some shortcomings. Messages on internet are generally hurriedly written and depending on ones verbal facility, the messages can be clear and easy to understand, to complex and at times nearly garbled (due to physical or other problems). Some people use UPPER CASE only which is generally taken as an indicator of SOMEONE SHOUTING! Some individuals use emoticons to add an emotional dimension to their messages. A colon and bracket can thus indicate smiling :) or frowning :( or winking ;)

The possibilities for expression are endless. So are those for confusion! Most forums use English as the language of interaction and not everyone is familiar or proficient in the nuances of the language which itself is transforming all the time, creating thus a potential for confusion and heartburn. Lastly, internet provides a certain degree of anonymity. Not every likes to use their real name for reasons of privacy and while it is acceptable, it also allows some immature and emotionally volatile individuals to misuse the system and abuse others. One must really be patient and self-confident to avoid such riff-raff, that does get past the filter in many of the forums. The moderated forums generally tend to keep such crowds out and are used as private areas for serious discussion. Some of the web-lists (groups) support chat areas and some astrologers use the messenger systems for giving astrological readings, but as conference areas for teaching and technical discussions, these remain vastly untapped or at least under utilized.

Candidly put, as it stands now, there is hardly any quality control over the information that exists in Jyotish on the Internet. Much of it, nearly all of it actually, is unedited and so one has to pick and choose. It is very easy to claim and brag and shamefully, many individuals do exactly that. This also applies to the astrology readings given and once in a while one hears of scamstories. One can only hope that like any other avenue, these shady characters represent a minuscule minority. One cannot let down one’s caution, though. Unfortunately, word of mouth alone is not good. One needs to do ones homework well. Internet also provides information about legitimate astrology associations, professional and amateur and information about conferences and workshops is easy to find.

There are also good sources of books and magazines that can be purchased over the internet, with the usual cautions and caveats observed, obviously.

As long as one uses the resources on Internet, and there is a Universe of those available, it can prove to be a very useful experience for the amateur and the student and also the professional. It is like a library that never closes, a shopping mall that is always open and a mouse click away. As long as you remain in areas that are well-lit and do not stray away too far from what you came to get!

This work by Rohiniranjan is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.

Photo courtesy of hugovk at flickr.com

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